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Erlend Sogge Heggen

8 months ago •

Erlend Sogge Heggen
8 months ago •

Several years in the making, GitLab is now very actively implementing #ActivityPub! 🙌

https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/11247

The end-goal is to support AP for merge requests (aka pull requests), meaning git.alice.dev can send a merge request to gitlab.com/Bob/project.git

First bite-sized todo on the implementation path there is ‘subscribe to project releases’.

Smart move by #GitLab; through ActivityPub they’re getting a distributed version of GitHub’s social layer.

@fediversenews #fediverse #GitHub #git

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Juan Luis

8 months ago •

@fediversenews Awesome! I read the thread and saw no mention of @forgefed either, do you folks know anything about these efforts?

@ForgeFed @profile/fediversenews

@astrojuanlu I'm also a little worried so see so little mention of @forgefed, and especially the idea that it's something that will be used for some small parts later without necessarily considering compatibility from the beginning. I hope I'm just misinterpreting what's been written and that ForgeFed compatibility will be taken into account at every stage.

@ForgeFed @Juan Luis

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Erlend Sogge Heggen

8 months ago •

@caesar @astrojuanlu it’s not mentioned on that page, but there are many amicable mentions of it elsewhere in the long tail of this development: https://toot.matereal.eu/@schmittlauch/110949571279023513

Trolli Schmittlauch 🦥

2023-08-25 09:35:04

Also good news is that they're aware of #ForgeFed and are considering to implement it for the more forge-specific activities, after getting a baseline of social updates of discussions and activities via AP. https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/21582#note_1470201114
https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/423245
https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/423249

Share events externally via ActivityPub (#21582) · Issues · GitLab.org / GitLab · GitLab
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Peter Bronez

8 months ago •

@caesar@astrojuanlu
A contributor discussed @forgefed in the comments on that issue a few hours ago: https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/11247#note_1529285198

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@ForgeFed @Caesar @Juan Luis

Peter Bronez

8 months ago •

@caesar@astrojuanlu@forgefed

Excerpt:

“Yep, I saw it, it looks awesome. :) It will be a good protocol [for] cross-instance discussions and merge requests.

The current [proposal] allow people on the fediverse to follow activity on Gitlab instances, without write access,[…] I prefer to avoid using an extension of ActivityPub

Given how ForgeFed already did all the design work, I don't see any reason not to use it”

@ForgeFed @Caesar @Juan Luis

Jason Robinson 🐍 🍻 🚴

8 months ago •

@Erlend Sogge Heggen Ooo finally, this is exciting! I'm immediately slightly worried it doesn't mention ForgeFed or Codeberg in anyway - I hope it doesn't mean there are no interop discussions heavily going in the background. Using ActivityPub doesn't automatically mean interop.

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Brendan Jones

8 months ago •

@smallcircles@fediversenews Can you explain that end goal a bit more for the only partly technical like myself? Does that mean if a project is open to PR/MRs that anyone on AP anywhere can remotely send them an MR without having to log in to Gitlab and make the MR there?

@smallcircles (Humanity Now 🕊) @profile/fediversenews

Erlend Sogge Heggen

8 months ago •

the Why and How sections of that issue are highly instructive.

Your understanding seems correct: In the most expansive version of this vision, anyone running an AP-enabled git instance (with one or more repos) can send MRs to another instance’s repo, without having to sign up there.

For starters this will be GitLab-specific, but that’s already huge for self-hosters of GitLab who currently don’t benefit from the internal interop of the GitLab.com network.

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Erlend Sogge Heggen

8 months ago •

@Brendanjones also hugely impactful as a way around GitHub’s moat as the de-facto social network of open source development. I follow hundreds of developers on GitHub, though mainly just to keep track of who I’ve interacted with, effectively adding them to a dev-specific address book.

I have a much harder time keeping track of non-GitHub devs on alt platforms, but if I could follow them on the fediverse that’s actually preferable over GitHub’s proprietary follow list.

@Brendan Jones

Brendan Jones

8 months ago •

thanks for the explanation.

Yeah I'm sad to say I don't follow a single dev or project anywhere but Github. Wouldn't mind having them all on a list here, instead.

Trolli Schmittlauch 🦥

8 months ago •

Also good news is that they're aware of #ForgeFed and are considering to implement it for the more forge-specific activities, after getting a baseline of social updates of discussions and activities via AP. https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/21582#note_1470201114

https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/423245

https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/423249

Share events externally via ActivityPub (#21582) · Issues · GitLab.org / GitLab · GitLab

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8 months ago •

Est-ce que c'est #Cloudflare
🔔 Cloudflare: `gitlab.com`

#cloudflare

التنينوكس

8 months ago •

This is awesome!

Marcel Waldvogel

8 months ago •

It's great to see this move!

#Git essentially has solved the distributed software development problem (at least the technical parts).

However, it has always bothered me that there is no generalization to distributed feedback in the form of issues and merge requests.

Several years ago, we've been playing with design ideas to have the issues also in git, but did like neither the models available then nor our own ideas. Finally a path forward! https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/11247

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moved

8 months ago •

that's cool!

Devin Murray :verifiedpurple:

8 months ago •

Several years indeed! I've been waiting for this for a long time

Gregor Niehl

8 months ago •

Like that last point! GitHub is at this point more of a social platform that a coding platform 😉

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Jupiter Rowland

8 months ago •

@gregorni@Erlend Sogge Heggen Meh, I only use it as a complaints box.

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Daniel Siepmann

8 months ago •

Even better move would be to participate in https://forgefed.org/. I didn't see any mention within their issues. Looks like #GitLab is trying to build ActivityPub support where it can't fulfill the need. Even while there already are efforts to build upon it and extend for a forge based protocol #ForgeFed. Leading to still isolated software instead of distributed where I don't need additional wrapper and efforts.

#GitLab #ForgeFed

Evan Prodromou

8 months ago •

@danielsiepmann why can't ActivityPub work for this use case?

@Daniel Siepmann

Evan Prodromou

8 months ago •

@danielsiepmann sorry, I should be clearer; as co-author of the AP and AS2 specs, I definitely think it makes a good fit for this use case, and I'm surprised by your assertion that it won't work.

@Daniel Siepmann

Blake Leonard

8 months ago •

I think they don't realize ForgeFed is based on ActivityPub (although I think it doesn't use AS/2). So it's most definitely fulfilling that use case.

Daniel Siepmann

8 months ago •

@Evan Prodromou as @Blake Leonard wrote it is an extension to ActivityPub as activity pub fulfils some, but not all requirements. It doesn't know, and doesn't need to know, about patches, commits, issues, for example.

That's already mentioned on their website https://forgefed.org/ where you can find the source at https://github.com/forgefed/forgefed/blob/main/content/_index.md#how-does-it-work.

@Evan Prodromou @Blake Leonard

jacky be posting and

8 months ago •

@danielsiepmann They're using ForgeFed logic as inspiration (it's mentioned in the epics by a GitLab developer in Brussels) but misspelled as fedForge

@Daniel Siepmann

Will Orr

8 months ago •

I'm keeping my expectations tempered atm, since Gitlab isn't implementing this, an external contributor is. That's still good, but as always with an external contributor contributing code to corp open source, there's the risk that company priorities aren't aligned, or shift such that the contribution is no longer welcomed.

AstraLuma :blobfoxcomputer:

8 months ago •

is this compatible with the work gitea/forgejo has been doing?

fuomag9

8 months ago •

OMG YES

Soheb

8 months ago •

Wow! I can't believe this move!!

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Urda

8 months ago •

that’s really cool!

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aa

8 months ago •

wonder if this will work with forgefed for forgejo

Zak φ🐢✌️

8 months ago •

I look forward to seeing this version and the communication between the instances !!!

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Alexander Tikhonov

8 months ago •

I hope GitLab will manage to do everything they’re planning to join Fediverse. After that GitHub would need to hustle up do the same. I will help them with the roadmap:
* Add projects avatars
* Add release discussions
* Implement ActivityPub for releases

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Tomodachi94

8 months ago •

amazing. This would make me move my projects over to GitLab (either self-hosted or the official instance) almost immediately.

Bonus points if #Codeberg, #Gitee, and so on implement a compatible implementation.

#codeberg #gitee

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ティージェーグレェ

8 months ago •

@CodexArcanum I was going to go with a mallory joke given the alice & bob references, but yours works too. ;) @erlend@fediversenews

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:prideflag_demigirl: 서버메이드 깐프

8 months ago •

That final goal looks... awesome.

At the cost of domain fixation, I can easily send someone else's GitLab repository.

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ch0ccyra1n :she_her:

8 months ago •

I need this! 🙀

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Edbro

8 months ago •

@carl what a good idea, seems like a great next step for a git solution in general. The decentralisation open such possibilities. And got already support signed commits to ensure the commit is from the correct sender.

@Carl Heath